Just looking, thanks

Posted by on May 17, 2006

As I was driving home from dropping my daughter off at school this morning, I caught myself doing something I’m kind of embarrassed about. I was looking. You know, at guys. Outside. Working. Shirtless.

And then there’s that guy that’s always outside with his giant greyhound. The one in the cowboy hat that never wears a shirt. With the abs. Yeah.

And then there’s the Vin Diesel-looking guy that walks the two little yapper dogs down my street a few mornings a week. He has a couple tattoos on his chest. How do I know? Well, because he’s always shirtless, of course.

Apparently I’m this perv driving around in the momvan scoping out shirtless men on every damn corner. But I’m going to use the excuse they’ve have used forever. I can’t help it. They’re just there. Right in front of me. How can I not see them? Sound familiar? Heheh. Well, that’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

So as I was driving around being an unintentional pervert, I started thinking about how some moms like the opposite of shirtless, tan, chiseled-ab types in favor of say…Jack White. Yeah. He’s apparently quite a hit with the mommy set. Hey, I can dig it. I like ‘em all. But he sort of falls into that not-hot type of hot category. And that’s when I decided it was time to revive the not-hot hot survey.

Everyone has one. A person, or two or three, that they’re crushin’ on that is NOT hot in the popular sense of the word. Maybe you dig the slightly nerdy Stephen Colbert? Or the not-so-chiseled chunky Jack Black? Or perhaps you like the big and nerdy types, like Drew Carey. Whatever, ladies… Just dish it!

And guys? If you’re here you HAVE to play. Spill :)

Consider including a brief explanation of who your not-hot crush is because I’m a bit out of the loop and unless they’re tabloid fodder like Brangelina or K-Fed, I might not know them.

EDITED TO ADD: Everyone keeps asking where I live that there are so many shirtless guys running around. I live in Florida. Everything grows like crazy here so there are lawn maintenance companies all over the place. We also have a McMansion-building boom going on so there are an assload of construction workers and tradesman in the neighborhoods I shortcut through to get my daughter to school. Now add to those the fact that it’s really hot here and voila! You have shirtless guys everywhere. That they happen to be attractive (instead of icky buttcrack-showing dudes with huge beer bellies) is clearly an anomaly. I don’t understand it either…

PS: I won the BlogHer comment contest hosted by the very generous Sue of Red Stapler but since I already paid for my registration, Sue let me give it to Elizabeth of Table for Five. Thanks Sue! You totally ROCK! See you both at BlogHer!


92 Comments

  • Denzylle says:

    John Hannah.

  • Sue says:

    See why we need explanation? I have NO idea who John Hannah is and now I have to google him :-)

    Christopher Walken, the fabulous actor…the biggest part I remember him in lately is the dad in Catch Me If You Can. It is his voice, not his body definitely.

  • Mom101 says:

    unintentional leering pervmom: love it.
    I’ve gotta go with Willem DaFoe, Gary Oldman and Marc Maron. I like ‘em smart and geeky.
    Oh, and then there’s Hurley from Lost. I know, I know…

  • Rhonda says:

    Jack Black, James Spader (Pretty In Pink Bad Guy), Andrew McCarthy (Mannequin). I like all the dorky ones :)

  • Marcie says:

    Jon Stewart and Conan O’Brien. Funny is sexy.

  • Redneckmommy says:

    Tommy Lee Jones. He has the world’s biggest ears, complete with hair, but there is something about that man.

    When I tell my hubs this, he rolls around the floor, clutching his sides while laughing his ass off. So, because I am a spiteful woman I will share his dirty little secret: He thinks Diane Keaton is a hottie. Now who’s laughing?

  • J. says:

    Bond, James Bond.
    Any of them.
    Sexy!!!

  • MetroDad says:

    Tina Fey, Sarah Silverman, Amy Sedaris. What can I say? I like my ladies funny.

  • Chris says:

    Oooh, MetroDad picked a great one – Sarah Silverman. I’d also add Kiera Knightly to my list. I don’t think that needs an explanation ;-)

  • Where the hell do you live; and are there any houses for sale on your school drive route? Geez. My neighborhood is not nearly as. . . inviting.

    I’m currently loving Sawyer from Lost; always love Noah Wylie from ER, and an old favorite is Billy Zane. He was so damn hot in Dead Calm.

  • faithjunkie says:

    What blackbelt mama asked…where DO you live?

    I’m a sucker for Sawyer, I squeal at the sight of Conan, I sigh when I see John Stewart. There’s also Kevin Spacey.

    But most of the time, Conesy is my absolute dream boat.

  • Wait a minute – I thought this was supposed to be a list of crushes who are NOT hot (in the traditional sense). Before I share my NOT hot crushes, I’d like a little clarification.

  • Amy says:

    George from Grey’s Anatomy. Don’t tell!

  • mama_tulip says:

    First of all, how cool is it that you are responsible for Elizabeth going to BlogHer? You are AWESOME, Izzy. Just fuckin’ awesome. :)

    Okay. I get a lot of slack for my not-so-popular crush. But I’d be all over him like white on rice if I had the chance.

    Christopher Walken.

  • Jenn says:

    Nothing wrong with just looking. : )

  • Pattie says:

    That is really nice that you passed that on to your friend!

    Hmm…weird crushes….Carson Daly. I don’t know why really. He isn’t really all that cute, but there is something about him. Maybe it was the *ehem* passionate dream I had one night, and I can’t look at him the same way! :)

  • philosopher says:

    I thought all women were hidden “pervs”… lol :P

  • jennster says:

    i love that you gave your blogher winning away- that is so fucking rockstar-ish of you! can’t wait to see you there! and now elizabeth too!!! AWESOME!!!!
    ps- stop checking out all the guys you whore! lol

  • tori says:

    What about the guy’s from Miami Ink? Some are actually hot, and some are non-traditional hotties. I’m married, but it doesn’t hurt to look! Oh, and I LOVE George from Grey’s Anatomy too! Sawyer isn’t hot? I thought he was! How about Barry Watson….anyone heard of him?

  • fin says:

    jack white is hot…so is john malkovich and adrian brody.

  • lildb says:

    Stephen Colbert. Kevin Spacey. Jim from The Office. Bill Murray. John Malkovich in Dangerous Liasons (the scene where he rests one foot on the stair, to reveal his, um, leg – gawddd). Harold in Harold and Maude. Will Sasso from Mad TV. Andy Samberg from the current SNL cast (the kid in the “Chronicles of Narnia” aka “Lazy Sunday” sketch). Chevy Chase in Fletch and Caddyshack, although I’m starting to wander from the fug-based theme with the last two.

    Oh, but I loves me some fugly funny men.

  • All right, here’s my list:

    Penn Jillette (of Penn and Teller)
    Tim Russert (of Meet the Press)
    Rudy Giuliani (of New York)

  • I always gravitate toward the quirky ones. Current is Hugh Laurie from House. Past faves have been John Cryer (As Duckie in PIP) I so wanted to comfort him. John Malkovich in Dangerous Liaisons. Gary Oldman in Dracula…. Oh. My.God. And, don’t laugh, But Steve Carrell in 40 year old Virgin.

    I think I tend to fall more for characters than the actual people. For example, Orlando Bloom as Legolas? Holy Mother of God he was hot. Orlando Bloom as Orlando Bloom? Not so much. What a weirdo, eh? I do have my token beefcake though. I’ve had a long lasting crush on Vin Diesel, though the man is dumber than a box of rocks. But, um…conversation is really the last thing on mind when it comes to Mr. Diesel.

    Wish I had some of those men wandering around my neighborhood!! There are a couple at the ballpark that I groove on, but they are rarely shirtless. There is something to be said for those shiny athletic shorts though. ;?)

  • P.S. I also owanted to say that it was very kind and generous to give away your blogher prize. You’re a class act Izzy.

  • Jerri Ann says:

    my neighborhood is all family…but I tend to like young guys but right now I can’t think of who might fit your criteria, I’m getting a kick out of reading the comments though

  • Jenn2 says:

    okay…color me impressed. Way to go, passing on the sweet prize!

    Interesting topic, too. I actually married my “not hot” crush a few years ago. My current Not Hot Celebrity crush? Lyle Lovett…since college, I kid you not. You know, the pompadored country singer who was briefly Mr. Julia Roberts? It’s his voice, the delivery. The twisted sense of humor. God, I love him. Just don’t tell my husband.

    And how is Jon Stewart not hot?????

  • My 8th grade teacher. He was totally dorky, but still today I get a little flushed thinking about him :) he he

    BTW, congrats on winning the BlogHer contest. Awesome!

  • Karla says:

    Chris Martin from coldplay. He may have been voted the worlds sexiest vegetarian, but they say he’s hot in a “high school science teacher” kind of way. I beg to differ.

  • TB says:

    You rock hard for doing this for Eliabeth. And now that I know you live in Florida, I can answer your question about where to find stores that specialize in selling jeans. In FL – Lucky Brand has stores in every major city, or try Sevens or Hudsons at any major department store – Dillard’s should sell them.
    Also, did you know I am MOVING to Florida in six short weeks? If you want, drop me an e-mail with which city you live in.

  • Chantal says:

    Always first and foremost is Adam Yauch, aka MCA from The Beastie Boys.

    Then the rest of the BB.

    Justin Bartha from the show “Teachers” on NBC.

    Seth Green (especially from the movie ‘Can’t Hardly Wait’)

    I also like my guys all tattooed and pierced (which is NOT what I married at all). Tommy Lee (I know, I know), Dave Navarro, andy of the bandmembers from Default.

  • Mrs. Chicky says:

    Do you remember that scene in “Kissing Jessica Stein” about sexy/ugly men? This post reminds me of that.

    Hmmm, Hugh Laurie from House. George from Grey’s Anatomy. Patrick Dempsey back in his “Can’t buy me Love” days (he’s fine now, but that doesn’t count). Steve Martin. Jamie Kennedy… he’s such a cutie. Joe Perry from Aerosmith.

    If you’ve got all those fine men in your neighborhood can I come live with you? ;)

  • Heather says:

    Mike Myers (despite recent rumours he may play for the other team). I’m all about guys who make me laugh.
    Oh and I love the reference to McMansions. I’ll definitely be adding that to my vocabulary.
    How nice of you to give away your prize!

  • Dawn says:

    Oh dear. I also have a cruch on Penn – like Julie. I always like the odd funny ones.

  • mrsfortune says:

    My hubz has a thing for Tina Fey, too, Metrodad.

    Personally I like um … Hal Holbrook and Tom Skerritt. I know I’m a sucker for old guys. And someone already said Willem Dafoe. But then I think of his teeth in “Wild at Heart” and I’m like EWWW.

  • You are my hero. That is such an amazingly generous thing you did for Elizabeth!

    Okay, not-hot crushes? Samuel L. Jackson.

  • tlwest says:

    James Spader, David Letterman, Patrick Stewart hahahaha! I wanna know where you are LOL! I live near Orlando — I never get to see any shirtless Gods

  • dorothy says:

    Ed Harris.

    Damn, I love Ed Harris.

  • ghandi rules says:

    I don’t if anyone else wrote this guy as I’m the 38th to comment and it’s late and I don’t want to go through all of them…Adrien Brody. He was the star of the movie The Pianist. Really skinny, tall, big nose. You know the guy? Well he’s kinda sexy and yet he’s icky too.

  • Lisa B says:

    YOu will laugh at me when I say this but Alan Rickman IN SENSE and SENSIBILITY had me totally digging his scene. He does this so painfully in love with Kate Winslet that he’d die to even have her burp in his direction thing going. And its not in that creepy, needy, stalker-y kinda way.

  • chelle says:

    Matthew McConaughey … Oh the accent oh that body…the hair..all the things fantasies are made of..*cough*

  • Stephanie A. says:

    OK, I like completely stalked the Music Geek, Andy Zax, from Beat the Geeks for a year or two. Embarrassing.

    I totally dig Alan Rickman. I posted about it on my blog and you won’t believe the number of hits I got from people searching google for “Alan Rickman sexy”. At least I’m not alone.

    Also, my husband looks like Jack Black, but he’s thinner and sexier!

  • Jess R says:

    Basically, what lildb said. Plus Bill Maher. *hangs head in shame*

    PS: let me echo some of the other commenters here. You are a class act for giving away your prize!

  • wordgirl says:

    Yes! Yes! A thousand times yes! James Spader. David Letterman. Alan Rickman. Jon Stewart. TR Knight. Penn Jillette & Lyle Lovett. (Robert Earl Keene, Jr & Lovett both graduated from my college alma mater!!)

  • Crystal says:

    We may be married, but we’re not dead!
    Patrick Dempsey, Tim McGraw, Kenny Chesney

  • cameo says:

    okay, i had to think long and hard about this one. and here are my offerings. John Amos (the dad from Good Times), Grizzly Adams, Alan Cumming (i know the boy’s gay – it’s a theatre thing), Gary Oldman, Harvy Keitel, Mikhail Baryshnikov, Rob Zombie, Sam Elliott, and Willie Nelson. there.

  • Hipster Mom says:

    Well, as you know, I loves me some Jack White. Beyond that, I would have to say Conan. I guess it’s his sense of humor, but I think he is incredibly hot! That said, you are so not a perv! One of my regular runs is through a country club neighborhood nearby and I have to say when the women who live over there decide to stay home it’s obviously because of their need to keep tabs on their incredibly hot gardners. We live in a college town and I guess the best way to earn book money is to mow lawns shirtless. Good God.

  • lildb says:

    how could I forget??? Keith Olbermann, Patrick Fitzgerald, and Jon Stewart. *siiiiigghhhh*

  • A says:

    mmm…Dave Matthews

  • Dawn Isaac says:

    That was hilarious. I burst out laughing while reading this post.

    Hmm. Not-hot type of hot? I just know who I do like. Chad Michael Murray from One Tree Hill. “Jack” on Lost. Most of the guys from Prison Break. McDreamy. Vin Diesel. Bruce Willis. Ashton Kutcher. “Christian” from Nip Tuck (except for the body hair!). “Chase” from House. Am I forgetting anyone? lol. Yes I like my men. ;)

  • Jill says:

    Have to echo Mrs Chicky, Hugh Laurie does it for me but only in character as House – that tough guy attitude with the tender underside gets me everytime. I saw him in Stewart Little and couldn’t believe it was the same guy. I guess its hard to be witty or sarcastic when you are father to a mouse!

  • katkat says:

    This makes me sad. I have not had a cutie crush in years…I live in a highly populated old people area. They need some hotties up in here!

  • supa says:

    Jon Stewart, Jason Schwartzman, and Ed Norton. And Hugh Jackson circa X-Men. And Viggo Mortensen circa Lord of the Rings. Tall, dark, debatably handsome, and emotionally conflicted. Me-ow.

  • fidget says:

    How timely, i caught myself leering today on teh way home from dropping Mira at school. I mean full on mouth fell open, realized what i was doing when i started licking my lips leering (oops)

    My not-hot crush is John Cusack.. i have no idea why.. there is just *something * about him!

    What part of Florida are you in? I didnt realize we were tearing up the same state!

  • dcfullest says:

    I honestly can’t remember the last time I saw a shirtless man in public. All the construction workers and lawn crew guys wear very proper t-shirts. Just another reminder about how conservative DC is.

  • Stefanie says:

    OMG – I can’t believe your very first comment is my crush too. John Hannah. I sit through Sliding Doors just for him and of course, Four Wedding….

    But other that the not-hot-but-very-sexy brit, my normal not hot but makes me horny is the nerdy but cute Jewish guy. I love them and have dated most of them. But then I go and marry a WASP. Go figure.

  • miah says:

    johnny depp. though he’s actually handsome…right? john cusac, too, who i think might also actually be handsome?

    i’m pretty sure steve bucemi isn’t officially handsome. i usually have a crush on him.

    i raise stephen colbert and john stewart (yuckos) to a ralph nader (horrifyingly handsome). i’m also with the Lyle Lovett crowd.

    can’t forget george w…kidding.

  • Wordgirl!!!! We share a crush on Alan Rickman!

    I have NEVER found another person who crushes on Alan Rickman. We are now, officially, friends for life, whether you like it or not. We can now start our own Alan Rickman Crush Club, where we sit around and listen to recordings of his voice and watch Die Hard over and over, fast-forwarding to all of the AR parts.

    And Izzy? You are one classy dame for passing on your Blogher prize. I’m buyin’ you a drink for that (but, also? cuz I want you to be my friend too.)

  • Okay, I have to delurk for this one…to the tune of Jack Black, Seth Green, pro football hall of famer Larry Csonka, and Edward Norton (especiall in ‘Death to Smoochy’). Wow, but I feel decidedly uncool.

  • Jess says:

    I think Julie’s take the cake.

    Me? Enrico Colantoni from Just Shoot Me and more recently, Veronica Mars. Honorable mention goes to Alan Rickman.

  • So now I want to move to Florida! Yum.

    Not-so-hot crush? Sean Connery. Actually he is hot. hot hot hot. Just old. does that count?

  • I live in the same town as Izzy. She’s right – it’s a shirtless god playground. I’m just glad my momvan windows are tinted.

    As for the not-hot category? I like the funny men too. Letterman, Leno, et al.

  • kittenpie says:

    Izzy – meme done. I forgot to tag anyone though…

  • Christina says:

    Hugh Laurie from House for sure.

    Oh, and Prince William. Yeah, I know.

  • Lucinda says:

    Uh. Bob Dole (I thought he had a good, warped sense of humor- but I hate politics, so don’t got there). And David Letterman.

  • J's Mommy says:

    I love Jim from The Office!!!!

  • J's Mommy says:

    I love Jim from The Office!!!!

  • J's Mommy says:

    I love Jim from The Office!!!!

  • J's Mommy says:

    I love Jim from The Office!!!!

  • J's Mommy says:

    I love Jim from The Office!!!!

  • Izzy says:

    I guess it might be time for me to post MY not-hot crushes, huh?

    Thanks to you all, I have recalled and/or found so many, it’s almost embarrassing…lol But here it goes:

    Ed Norton
    Adrien Brody
    Christopher Walken
    Gary Oldman
    James Spader (does he count?)
    Bill Maher
    Harry from Sex in the City (Charlotte’s husband…don’t know his name)

    This has been MOST interesting and fun and when I have time, I plan on tabulating the results.

  • I’ve been stuck behind a dust pan all week. It’s about time I popped in to see all the fun I’ve been missing out on! I love dirty, pretty boys. Basically take any hottie and make sure they don’t shower or shave and I turn into a basket case.

    The moody Trent Reznor is not your typical dreamboat.

  • What fun! The older I get, the younger Sean Connery looks. All-time sexiest man, but all the younger set thinks his age makes him creepy. Oh not so, not so…

    Who else…Bono…not much of a looker at all but his voice soars and so do I…

    Eccentric, kindy dumpy Gil Grissom on CSI, William Peterson… uh huh, yeah, the guy races cockroaches…on the show, don’t have a clue who he is really…but when he goes clueless in social situations, he’s adorable…

    Do I see a pattern developing here? Not at all…

    Lord of the Rings – Aragorn – I only like Vigo Mortenson when he’s tragic, really dirty, torn up, half dead…oh yeah…in real life, nahhhh. In other roles….nahhhh.

    Clark Kent (not Superman)

    Jeremy Irons

    pre-marriage and fatherhood-Johnny Depp

    Ok now I see a pattern…actors who play really strange roles. (Johnny’s gotten pretty boring since becoming a father, give me back Edward Scissorhands, Gilbert Grape and omg my favorite, Benny of Benny and Joon!)

    Thanks for the fun!

  • sherry says:

    I’m new here, hi!

    My supremely embarrassing, unexplainable not-hot crush is Steve Buscemi. I have NO clue why.

  • cat says:

    Hugh Laurie (Sense and Sensibility, Stuart Little, House, M.D.), Sir Anthony Hopkins, Enrico Colantoni (Just Shoot Me, Galaxy Quest, Veronica Mars – as “Keith Mars”), TJ Thyne (“Dr. Jack Hodges” on Bones), Carmine Giovinazzo (“Danny Messer,” CSI: NY), Muse Waston (“Charles Westmoreland,” Prison Break), Eric Szmanda (“Greg Sanders,” CSI), William Peterson (“Gil Grissom,” CSI), Paul Guilfoyle (“Jim Brass,” CSI), David Conrad (“Jim Clancy,” Ghost Whisperer, Miss Match, Wedding Crashers, Roswell, Relativity), Joaquin Phoenix, Danny Pinto (“Scotty Valens,” Cold Case, The Sheild), Jonathan Rhys Meyers, TR Knight (“George O’Malley,” Grey’s Anatomy)…I’m sure there are more, I just can’t think of them right now. :-)

  • Nila says:

    I’m a little late in the game, and as much as I want to play, I can’t think of any. I’m married. What would be the point of a not hot crush when I’m going for fantasy fodder.

  • Kellie says:

    “I caught myself doing something I’m kind of embarrassed about. I was looking. You know, at guys. Outside. Working. Shirtless.” And this is a problem why? Who could resist all those hot, shirtless…etc, can’t type anymore…LOL

  • Joanne says:

    Oooh sexy men – Well I have a little bit of a problem with Hugh Laurie – I far too used to him being all geeky over here on UK TV for him to make much impression as House – plus its far far too cold over here in the UK for any man to take his shirt off in public

    I get the Alan Rickman thing totally – Especially in Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves and weirdly Harry Potter as Snape, Gary Oldman in Dracula especially with walking down the street with those glasses on, Sawyer is very interesting in Lost but to be honest I prefer Sayid.

    Over in the UK we are currently enjoying the new series of Doctor Who – David Tennant as the 10th Doctor is absolutely gorgeous.

    My ultimate man though has to be Johnny Depp – He’s quirky, geeky, very very cute and funny as well – He even likes Absinthe.

    Great Blog – first time I’ve visted today enjoyed the audio blog as well

  • Nancy says:

    Way late coming over, but I wanted to say first you ROCK for giving Elizabeth your BlogHer registration spoils. I’m going to give you a big hug and smooch at BlogHer for that!!!

    Second, let’s see about the unlikely dude crushes… hmm. Bradley Whitford (Josh on West Wing), Alan Alda in his youth (Hawkeye on M*A*S*H), David Spade (Just Shoot Me and other stuff), Willem DaFoe, William H. Macy, Adam Yauch from the Beastie Boys (thanks for reminding me, Chantal!), Beck, Zach Braff (Scrubs).

  • Ed Bacchus says:

    I can’t think of anyone right now. I’ll come back later after I’ve had some time to think.

  • Molly says:

    im waaaaay way too late here but what the heck..

    ok so i got a thing for older men

    john ritter
    beau bridges
    bruce boxleitner
    will h macy
    david andrews (u can see him in terminator 3)
    the guys from CSI – william peterson n paul guilfoyle
    anthony edwards (E.R, revenge of the nerds)
    richard dreyfuss
    tim robbins
    james eckhouse (b.h. 90210 dad)
    victor garber (jack bristow @ alias)
    mandy patinkin (E.R)

  • Kate says:

    Hugh Laurie is 47 but I don’t care, he is so yum if i had the chance i would hold on and never let go!!!!!!!!! SSSSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SeXXXXXyyy!!!

  • Keri says:

    I love Stephen Colbert and Jon Stewart. I also have a thing for Anderson Cooper on CNN. It makes it even worse that I am only 17, and all of my friends think I will only like a guy who has to walk with a cane.

  • keri says:

    hmmm, hugh laurie, johnny depp, mackenzie crook, jude law, rupert grint, ralph fiennes, jack black…all my faves, all of them sexxi =]. sometimes i get depressed noing that i cant meet any of them.. huh…it sux, but ya, gotta love em. im only 15, but i cant help but go for the older guys, like mr milne, my history teacher, ~dreamy eyed~

  • Weird 'n' Wonderful says:

    John Malkovich is the sexiest man on the planet, even if he is old enough to be my great grandfather :)

  • Weird 'n' Wonderful says:

    John Malkovich is the sexiest man on the planet, even if he is old enough to be my great grandfather :)

  • Weird 'n' Wonderful says:

    John Malkovich is the sexiest man on the planet, even if he is old enough to be my great grandfather :)

  • Weird 'n' Wonderful says:

    John Malkovich is the sexiest man on the planet, even if he is old enough to be my great grandfather :)

  • Weird 'n' Wonderful says:

    John Malkovich is the sexiest man on the planet, even if he is old enough to be my great grandfather :)

  • marysmom says:

    I saw him first!!!!!!! I have dreams about him!

  • mz7 says:

    Hugh Laurie of course and James Spader(Nobody said them both in the same comment?!?)
    And also gary sinise:P

  • Lily says:

    I seem to gravitate to the older nerdy Brit: Alan Rickman, John Hannah, David Walliams and my current maddest pash, the delectable Tony Head. The Canadians I’d leave my hubby for? Ed Robertson, Alan Doyle and oh god, hold me back, Victor Garber.
    Victor has to be the manliest man that ever manned. Seriously, I came close to a coma with my last baby and I’d consider taking the chance to have his. Whoo-such hottness!

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